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New-Aeroponic-Grow Journal ReportsOnce you get started and learn how to grow weed and taste your first buds you will be hooked. From there you will begin to master the ins and outs of growing cannabis and you will never stop growing weed.

Here are my grow journal reports. My grows aren't always perfect but I learn more with each one. And the smoke is a step above anything I could buy at any price.

Running HPS Vs LED? Back To Basics!

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My current grows both are running HPS. Why? If you know me at all then you know I like to experiment but things dont always work out as planned so I am going back to basics.

I love LED lights. They save energy and produce a lot of light but I have been having problems with foxtailing and lower yields so I have started running HPS again.

Also I have been experimenting with SIPs or sub irrigated planters using coco and smart pots. While they do a great job of watering I have not been able to keep pH stable and yields have suffered. So until I can figure out why I will go back to tried and true drain to waste watering.

In one grow I replaced a HLG 550 with a 1000w HPS. The strains I chose have all been grown before but only under LEDs. In another grow I have a 600w HPS along side a HLG 550 dimmed to 300w with a strain that likes to foxtail so I should have a better idea if light spectrum or intensity are factors.

When things start going south it is a good idea to stop and retrace your steps. Go back to what is proven and known to work. So I am going back to basics. “Old fashioned” HPS for lighting and DTW (drain to waste) for watering.

HPS Vs LED Early Observations

A few things I noticed right of the bat are that my HLG quantum boards are much brighter even at lower wattage. Of course the spectrum on the HPS at 2200k is more orange and the LEDs are more white at 3000k.

Although the HLG has a more balanced spectrum which is closer to natural sunlight the plants really seem to like the HPS spectrum and seem stronger and healthier even with this narrow spectrum.

The HPS gives off more heat but even in a closet it is manageable with good ventilation. I think I am starting to see better and earlier trichome development too. Here are a few pics of a GG4 and she has nice frost starting already.

Running HPS GG4 day 21
Running HPS vs LED
GG4 day 21 under HPS

Reset On My 1000w HPS Grow

OK so I have reset this grow with new plants but still am running HPS lighting. Plants were not growing that well. Flowering was delayed and bud size was small so I decided it was better to cut my losses early and start with new plants. I am running the same strains with the exception of replacing the GG4 with a Black Banana.

Solving A PH Problem

Dropping pH has been a problem for me the past few grows. I believe it is why my SIP grows did not do well and it was happening here too and resulting in a poor grow.

Turns out something was growing in my reservoir. Not pythium but whatever it was would cause pH to drop like a stone. Even with frequent resets with pH up it would soon drop again.

The results would be small buds and low yield and because it was in the coco I reused and vegged with too I brought it into this grow. Now it is fixed and my pH is remaining stable!

The House Is Rocking Day 7

Really glad I reset this grow and it is doing way better than the one I replaced. 1000w HPS with top feed drip and multiple daily feedings.


The DTW set up is the reason I think things are going so well. A bit more labor intensive than recirculating nutrients but I think the results are definitely worth the effort.

Day 14 Flowering Begins

My plants have begun to flower on day 14. Everything is going well and the drain to waste system is producing nice results.

The plants received a leaf stripping starting on day 10. Mostly lower leaves and some small side shoots were removed. I did not do it all at once but over about 3 days hoping this would not slow the plants down like a full leaf strip do9es. So far it seems to have worked.

GAVITA PRO 6/750e DE FLEX HPS RESET DAY 21

I just replaced a 1000w single ended bulb in an air cooled Block Buster reflector with this light 3 days ago. Plants are loving it and temps are actually lower.

Side Lighting Test

I have a lot of lower branches as you can see from the above video. Since I can not find a definitive answer to how well this will work I decided to try it and test it out for myself.

I am using a HLG 300for this and have dimmed it down to 200w. [amazon_textlink asin=’B07887QTB6′ text=’HLG 300′ template=’ProductCarousel’ store=’buildkoipondc-20′ marketplace=’US’ link_id=’9d7c2054-f4ef-46e9-a872-8ec88ac1577d’]

I dont expect huge buds from this. I think the top buds will always be bigger due to apical dominance. But I am hoping they turn out to be decent sized. Normally I would prune off most of these lower branches. So it will be cool if I can save some labor on pruning and increase my yield at the same time.

Running HPS Day 28

Everything is doing well on day 28. Because the plants are tall I have dimmed the Gavita to 500w and raised the HLG 300 side light up a bit to compensate.

I have decided to try flowering smaller plants so I can run the Gavita at its full 825 watts. Right now some plants are less than a foot away from the light. They are warm but not hot and I dimmed things from 600 to 500w just to be safe.

So I will probably be trying a SOG grow soon. If the plants are flipped at 12 inches I will end up with a canopy between 2-3 feet. This will easily give me enough room to run my Gavita at full power.

Not yet sure how many plants I will run. I will need more to fill the canopy and compensate for the lower individual yield.

GML DEATH BUBBA DAY 30

I have grown GML Death Bubba 3 times before and this is the first time it really looks like it is supposed to. Something was added to the mom and it resulted in extremely leafy plants with little branching. My guess is an overdose of some kind of kelp product.

But this plant is loving life now. The Gavita is close to the tops so dialed down to 500w and she is getting some sidelighting from a HLG 300. Top feed drip and DTW is working really well and all plants have exploded in growth this week with great stacking and buds swelling and growing larger.

Day 35 A Bit Of Heat Stress Going On

Over all plants are looking good. Some plants are showing signs of heat stress, with leaf edges rolling up. I dimmed the Gavita down to 400w and moved some tops that were directly under the light over to the side. Humidity is low right now even with a humidifier and that is probably a contributing factor.

Day 42 The House Is A Rockin’

Things are looking great on day 42. Plants are happy and healthy. Some signs of heat stress and the Gavita was dimmed to 400w but the HLG 300 will pick up the slack. Buds are frosty and swelling.

SFV OG, Death Bubba, Black Banana, Tropicanna Day 49

Things are coming along nicely. The plants are really tall and the Gavita has been dimmed to 400w but the HLG 300 dimmed to 200w is picking up the slack. Originally hung down low as a side light for the lowers it was hung higher up to get light to the tops.

Aside from a few heat issues caused by tops getting to close to the Gavita I am very happy with how this grow is going. I am starting to lower nutrients and will be running strait water for the flush next week.

Flushing Has Started Day 56

Today I started flushing. Nutes were reduced last week from about 350 ppm to 200. From here on out it will be just plain water until the plants have a good fade. Probably done around day 63 but might go 70 days because some plants are really 10 weekers although they can be taken sooner.

GML DEATH BUBBA DAY 56

SFV OG DAY 56

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SFV OG under a Gavita Pro 6/750e De Flex at 56 days and flush has started. You can watch the full video at https://youtu.be/V0TgXjroUH8 • https://420dotcom.com/gavita-pro-6-750e-de-flex-review.html • https://www.amazon.com/shop/howtogrowweed420 • @grandmasterlevel @tastiterps @solfiregardens2019 @realthor89 @mr_smokalotapotamus • #GAVITA #gavitapro #HPS #gmldeathbubba #deathbubba #blackbanana #tropicannacookies #sfvog #420grower #420instagram #420everyday #420nation #mmjlife #weedlove #weedlover #weedofinstagram #mmjgrower #mmjlife #budporn #howtogrowweed #growingweed #420dotcom #closetgrow #howtogrowweedindoors #growyourownmedicine #cobled #growyourownmeds #playingwithfire #greengenesgarden #closetgrower

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Black Banana Cookies Day 60

BBC is a great strain from Solfire Gardens and I have been growing her for a while. She always turns out great even when things go south.

She got taller than expected and one main cola had heat damage but over all the plants in this grow were too tall for the light and I see signs of stress on upper leaves and colas.

I was really surprised to see a lot more purple in my still bud shots. The HPS really hides it.

Green Planet Nutrients Grow Journal

I made the switch to Green Planet Nutrients a while ago. I can only say I wish I had done it sooner. This will be the first full grow journal with Green Planet running in both my grow closets.

The last grow in here started out with New Millenium nutrients but I was not happy with how things were going so I switched to GP3 Part about 4 weeks into flower. The results were absolutely amazing.

But dont take my word for it here is some GG4 that just finished up.

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Switched over to Green Planet nutrients. Here is some triched out GG4 harvested on day 60. Never grew that good before GP3 you rock! • @nlggrow @greenplanetnutrients @chycannallcgp @growingexpsd @tastiterps @grandmasterlevel @horticulturelightinggroup @solfiregardens2019 • http://420grower.org/green-planet-nutrients-review/ • #gpgrown #greenplanetnutrients #GG4 #deathbubba #420grower #420growers #420instagram #420everyday #420nation #mmjlife #weedlove #weedlover #weedofinstagram #mmjgrower #mmjlife #budporn #howtogrowweed #growingweed #420dotcom #closetgrow #howtogrowweedindoors #growyourownmedicine #cobled #growyourownmeds #playingwithfire #greengenesgarden #closetgrower #closetgrown #quantumboards #hlg

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And here’s some pictures of my GG4 harvested on day 60

GG4 day 60
Green Planet Grow GG4
Green Planet Nutrients Grow Journal
Green Planet Nutrients Grow Journal

Green Planet Nutrients Grow Journal Day 1

Well now I am starting a new grow in closet #2 running only Green Planet. The strains are Death Bubba, Black Banana Cookies, Biker Kush and Tropicanna Cookies. I explain everything in this video below

If you want to know more about one node and flip training you can go to my article here: https://420dotcom.com/one-node-and-flip-vs-leaf-stripping.html

If you want to view my other current grow it is here: http://420grower.org/death-bubba-grow-journal/

I am running the same nutrients with another Death Bubba, GG4 and SFV OG. It is about a month ahead of this one.

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Green Planet On Day 7 Running In Recirculating SIPs

I just switched this grow closet over to a SIP growing system and I am recirculating my Green Planet nutes in it. PPMs and pH have remained stable.

These plants had some issues in veg with a partial lock out or some kind of deficiency. They have pretty much come out of it in flower.

The SIP or sub irrigated planter is a grow system being used by home gardeners but not for cannabis. It is a system that relies on wicking or capillary action to water the plants.

While I did not invent it, nor am I the first to grow weed with it, I do believe I am the first to set up a recirculating sip.

If you are interested in trying a SIP or finding out more about them go here: http://420grower.org/diy-sip-grow-system-for-cannabis/

How To Grow Weed

Biker Kush By Karma Genetics Revisited

Biker Kush is a cross made by Karma Genetics. In my opinion this strain represents some of his best work.  It is HA OG  crossed with a HA OG X SFV OG. The male was created by using a SFV X Afgani.

I have grown this strain for years because the smell, taste and high were just unbeatable, Sure many strains today are prettier but few pack the same punch.

A few years ago I lost power and ended up with a really bad outbreak of pythium root rot. I lost this girls sister #10 which was my best cut of all.

This is my #6 cut and she is the sole surviver of about a half dozen cuts I was holding including a really nice 3 leaved biker kush male. She is a bit shorter than her #10 sister and throws a few less 3 bladed leaves but otherwise she is a dead ringer in looks and quality.

Although she survived she lost the smell and taste she once had. Now I am not a biologist but I read when plants regenerate stress can cause the genes to combine differently. They are still there but they dont express themselves the same.

I believe this happens more often than we realize. It explains why the same strain can perform differently in different grow rooms. I think it is important to keep your moms or clones very healthy.

After recloning this girl 5 or 6 times she came back! Each time I would take a cut and veg it out for about 6 weeks and then take another cut. Each time she got healthier.

Midway through this process I flowered one out. It was just OK. Nothing special at all. But about 2 months later I flowered it again and although the plant was small and did not get a lot of light that familiar taste, smell and buzz was back.

So this is a clone of that clone and she looks super healthy like she did back in the day. Maybe even a little bit better! So I have high hopes for the girl I am going to show you now.

Biker Kush Day 10 Video


Biker Kush Photos Day 10

Biker Kush By Karma Genetics Revisited

Biker Kush Day 17

Thought I would update. This is a very stretchy plant. I have raised the light 3 times for her. I am pretty much out of room. Bending or breaking some necks is the only other option for this girl.

Hopefully she is done stretching. I forgot how tall she gets and actually this pheno was the shorter of the 2 I kept.

Bringing The Frost – Biker Kush Day 28

Today is day 28 and I was pleasantly surprised by the amount of frost on this lady. I believe she really is back from the dead. I am about to do a res change and start adding my [amazon_textlink asin=’B008BI0HN8′ text=’Plagron Green Sensation’ template=’ProductLink’ store=’buildkoipondc-20′ marketplace=’US’ link_id=’aba1c4b2-3b35-480c-acd7-71b162419887′].

This is one time I do change my res. I like to add my Green Sensation first and check the ppms. Then I adjust things up by adding my [amazon_textlink asin=’B07NC1ZFN1′ text=’New Millenium Autumn Gold’ template=’ProductLink’ store=’buildkoipondc-20′ marketplace=’US’ link_id=’ac6a24a7-ff76-4368-b13f-04d93bacc1b9′] and Equinox to the mix. Since the Biker Kush is a hardcore OG I usually will add a bit of extra calmag to the mix too. Here are some pics from day 28:

Biker Kush By Karma Genetics

I am growing my Biker Kush in my top feed drip system and getting big plants in small pots and if you are looking for an easy hydro system to build and run this is it! Check it out at: https://420dotcom.com/biker-kush-by-karma-genetics.html

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Karma Genetics Biker Kush. Had this girl for years and almost lost her to pythium but after raising 5 or 6 generations of clones she is back from the dead. Day 28 stretching is done and frosting like crazy. • @solfireseeds @karmagenetics @grandmasterlevel @horticulturelightinggroup @fishlips_gardens @newmilleniumnutrients • https://420dotcom.com/biker-kush-by-karma-genetics.html • #karmagenetics #bikerkush #solfiregardens #newmilleniumnutrients #420grower #420growers #420instagram #420everyday #420nation #mmjlife #weedlove #weedlover #weedofinstagram #mmjgrower #mmjlife #budporn #howtogrowweed #growingweed #420dotcom #closetgrow #howtogrowweedindoors #growyourownmedicine #cobled #growyourownmeds #playingwithfire #greengenesgarden #closetgrower #closetgrown #quantumboards #hlg

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BIKER KUSH DAY DAY 39

Things are moving along nicely. The buds are rock hard and frosty. In some pictures I took they look white or silver.

She smells like lemon OG gas with some floral notes to it. She makes decent size buds and you can see the difference between her buds and the Tropicanna Cookies alongside her.

So here is a day 39 video for her where I also talk a bit about how to get rid of powdery mildew using ozone to disinfect your grow space.

FROST MONSTER BIKER KUSH DAY 49

What can I say? She’s frosty A.F. and smells incredible. Will take her at least 60 days maybe more.

Day 56 Flushing

These girls started their flush a few days ago and will probably go to day 63 maybe even a bit more.

Death Bubba Cannabis Strain Information And Grow

Death Bubba cannabis strain hails from B.C. Canada, that much is certain. Less certain are the exact origins of this strain. It is said to be a cross of Death Star and Bubba Kush.

Death Star is a cross of Sensi Star and Sour Diesel but the full genetics of Sensi Star have not been revealed. It is believed to be mostly Afghani but there is some Sativa in her genetics too. She is a multiple Cannabis Cup winner.

According to Leafly: “Death Bubba, bred by Matteo Suleyman of Vancouver BC’s Sea to Sky, is a beautiful, purple-hued strain with trichromes and terpenes abound. Created by crossing Death Star and Bubba Kush.” https://www.leafly.com/indica/death-bubba

I do not believe the information to be accurate though. So I would have to say the real Death Bubba’s genetics are unknown and remain a mystery. It is not at all uncommon for a dispensary to claim they have something or rename something if it is popular.

Truth be told Grand Master Level named this strain and was growing it for years before a certain Vancouver dispensary either created or renamed a variety and called it Death Bubba after he refused to sell any to them or provide them with any cuts. So the Leafly plant is a fake and not the real Death Bubba.

My plant did not come directly from GML but it is definitely the real Death Bubba cut without doubt. Death Bubba is a clone only strain and there are no authentic seeds available at this time.

I ran across an old grow on YouTube where a guy was growing a dead ringer for it. He called it Platinum Bubba Kush and it was a cross of Platinum OG and Bubba Kush. Cant say that is what it is but the plant definitely grows more like a shorter OG rather than a Bubba Kush.

Both Platinum OG and Bubba Kush are popular on the west coast so it is possible someone made this cross.

Regardless, stories about its potency and quality abound and I wanted to try growing it for myself.

Death Bubba Grow

Here is a short video of it being grown that I found on Instagram

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Death Bubba Cannabis Strain Clone

So here is my cut:

Death Bubba Cannabis Strain Information And Grow - New Clone

I will begin vegging it out, get a few cuts from it and will be starting my grow journal soon. Here is a quick video

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Death Bubba is a cross of Death Star and Bubba Kush from B.C. Canada. Have seen it grown and heard about the quality of the smoke and wanted to give it a try. • @grandmasterlevel @horticulturelightinggroup @newmilleniumnutrients @fishlips_gardens • https://420dotcom.com/death-bubba-cannabis-strain.html • #420grower #420growers #420instagram #420everyday #420nation #mmjlife #weedlove #weedlover #weedofinstagram #mmjgrower #mmjlife #budporn #howtogrowweed #growingweed #420dotcom #closetgrow #howtogrowweedindoors #growyourownmedicine #cobled #growyourownmeds #playingwithfire #greengenesgarden #closetgrower #closetgrown #newmilleniumnutrients #quantumboards #hlg

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Death Bubba In Veg

This strain shows strong basal dominance much like her ancestor Bubba Kush. Most plants I have grown show apical dominance. They grow much like a Christmas tree whereas the Death Bubba wants to grow like a bush.

She made a lot of small leaves and shoots low down on the plant. It was keeping top growth from happening. Short bushy plants are not well suited for my training and growing system.

In a mixed grow they would quickly get shaded. Even if they were not the lights would be up higher and there would be limited light available for growth of lower branches.

I decided to try removing most of the lower growth to see if I could get a taller more upright plant.

Death Bubba Gets A Haircut

Late Veg And Another Defoliation

I saw a positive response from removing lowers. Leaves were larger now and although the main branches were upright enough there still was a lot of lower growth that would be poorly lit and not grow well. So I decided to trim her again.

She will be flowered in 2 weeks. I just can’t hold her any longer. She shares her grow space with Tropicanna Cookies which is a very tall plant. It is 24 inches tall and ready to flower while the Death Bubba is only about 16 inches tall.

FLOWERING DAY 1

I decided it was now or never and put the whole closet into flower. Although the Death Bubba is smaller than I would like I still think she will do well.

There are 4 Tropicanna in the closet along with a GG4 and an Animal Cookies. Animal cookies is supposed to be a tall plant and the Tropicanna gets tall and I felt waiting any longer would result in an out of control grow considering the number of plants in the closet.

Day 7 Death Bubba And Friends

Today is day 7 Death Bubba and her roommates are doing well. Right now it is the smallest plant in the grow. She looks healthy and is starting to stretch. Everything else is bigger as you can see from the video.

Day 14 Flowering Has Started!

Today is day 14 and my Death Bubba has started flowering. She is not a big plant but the flowers are looking good. Everything in the closet was given a leaf stripping and lollypopping on day 14.

Nutes were bumped up too. They were getting about 700 ppm and are now at about 1200 ppms. Some additional cal mag was added because I am seeing some purple stems on this girl. Most OG and OG crosses will usually need extra cal mag especially under LED lighting.

Death Bubba Vegs Like A Bushy Indica

The Death Bubba is done stretching and although it is not a big plant the final structure is good. This plant really is bushy in veg and very much basal dominant. But once she goes under 12/12 she begins stretching and growing like an OG.

It has developed a nice central cola with a nice whorl of branches around it. The buds are good sized for their age with thick upright pistils. Trichomes are already starting to show themselves too. This lady is really showing promise. Other than a somewhat slow start in veg I really like her a lot.

Death Bubba And Friends After Leaf Stripping Day 28

Plants are doing well following leaf stripping. I am seeing nice buds and good trichome production starting. In a week you would never know they were defoliated.

Adding Plagron Green Sensation Week 4

Week 4 is when it is recommended to start bud boosting with[amazon_textlink asin=’B008BI0H2E’ text=’ Plagron Green Sensation ‘ template=’ProductLink’ store=’buildkoipondc-20′ marketplace=’US’ link_id=’59b3659a-96bd-41bb-834c-9d28b183778c’]so today it was added at the recommended 4 ml per gallon.

This product is not cheap but it really brings on noticeable results and buds love it. It contains an enzyme and PK booster and something that makes the buds really grow and swell beyond what any PK boost can do.

Death Bubba Day 28 Pictures

Green Planet Nutrients Switch Day 35

About 3 days ago I switched from New Millenium Nutrients to Green Planet. I was offered a sponsorship and thought they would be worth a try.

Plants were recovering from a leaf strip but seemed to have stalled out a bit too long so decided to try something new.

So far I have been impressed even though it’s only been a few days since the change. Buds seem larger and stacking better and trichome production seems better too. I realize it is early but at this point I think I may have found a better product.

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Death Bubba And Friends Days 42 And 49

I have been continuing with the Green Planet 3 part and the rest of their line up. So far I am happy with them. Trichome production and stacking looks to be better than when I was running New Millenium nutrients. They are a good line and I grew some nice crops with them but the Green Planet seems to be working better for me.

Flushing Begins On Day 50

So when I watch my videos I often pick up things I missed when looking at the plants live and in person. So I happened to notice the leaves were really dark green. Although it is not a case of nitrogen toxicity it is too much for the end of flower.

So on day 50 I decided to start flushing. Although I have switched to Green Planet I still have some New Millenium additives like Winter Frost and I decided to use it as a preflush for a week. So plants were given a light flush to help get old nutes out and then Winter Frost was added. Plants have gone from 900 to 300 ppms for a week and then they will be getting just water until done.

DEATH BUBBA AND FRIENDS HARVESTED ON DAY 60

 

ONE NODE AND FLIP VS LEAF STRIPPING

I have been experimenting with some training systems like one node and flip popularized by the Jungle Boys and leaf stripping and want to compare results with these defoliation techniques.

ONE NODE AND FLIP VS LEAF STRIPPING DAY 9

ONE NODE AND FLIP DAY14

Above are 4 plants trained using the one node and flip technique on day 9 and day 14.

Below are 4 plants that received a total leaf stripping on day 19, now at day 25.

ONE NODE AND FLIP VS TOTAL LEAF STRIPPING

leaf stripped day 19 now on day 24

One Node And Flip Vs Leaf Stripping – Which Is Better?

Here is a video comparing my grow closets and the two techniques.

It is too early to make a full comparison between the 2 methods and one grow is all Wedding Cake while the other is Wedding Cake and 3 other strains. They are also 10 days apart. But there are a few important take aways from both.

There are obviously many more leaves in the one node and flip closet and it is likely some will be removed later. The canopy is not as deep with this method so more light will get to all the buds. There are no lower buds so there will be no larf and less smaller buds.

The closet that was leaf stripped has a much deeper canopy and therefore less light getting to the lower buds. I feel pretty sure there will be more small buds with this system.

Implementing this training system is much easier because it is done just before flowering. With a leaf strip most growers wait until day 21, but one I know does it on day 14. Either way, all this has to be done with the trellis already up so it is much more difficult to do. If you have ever used this technique you know it is very labor intensive and time consuming.

I have had problems leaf stripping. It sets the plants back and has resulted in smaller buds for me. The plants appear stunted to me. There were some other factors that may have led to stunting like light levels that were too high for plants to use without additional CO2. I wrote an article about this on my sister site and you can view it here: http://420grower.org/how-much-led-light-for-weed-and-is-750-w-cob-led-lighting-too-much/

Many successful growers use leaf stripping with great success but they are also running CO2 and I think this makes recovery easier and faster.

I would not recommend leaf stripping unless you also have CO2. I think you can get the same or better results using one node and flip and it is faster and easier to implement.

Right now I think the closet with one node and flip training looks better and I think yield and bud size will be better. The closet that was leaf stripped still looks a bit stunted but with lowered light levels I am seeing the buds start to size up and grow new white hairs. I will update the results as time goes on. Can’t decide? Here is a detailed comparison:

Defoliating Cannabis Explained In Detail

I want to leave you with 2 videos from 2 different master growers showing these 2 different defoliation techniques in more detail.

The first video is from Grand Master Level and shows him doing a complete leaf strip on his Death Bubba girls. It’s long but definitely worth watching.

The second is much shorter and from HiGrowGroup and explains the one node and flip technique. Interestingly enough, he used to do a total leaf strip in flower like Grand Master Level does , but now he is using the one node and flip technique and explains why.

A Look At My One Node And Flip Plants On Day 21

My plants are looking much better than the ones that received a full leaf stripping. They look healthier and more robust.

The biggest advantage I see to the one node and flip technique is that it does not slow plant growth down in any way. My plants that were defoliated always took at least 3 days to start recovering and growing again.

Since the one node technique is done just before flower the plants do not slow down at all. I was not sure how much these girls would stretch so I did not use any N.M. Decision at transition to flower. Once they started getting tall I did give them some around day 16 hoping it would slow stretch down a bit. Not really sure if it had much effect.

I don’t know if stretch is over at day 21 or if they will stretch a bit longer. Some colas are much taller than others and close to the light. The problem is worse with multiple strains too because they have different growth rates.

In the end I think some fine tuning is needed. For example the GG4 did not stretch upwards as much as the rest. Instead it got wider. The canopy is dense and may need some stripping or branch thinning. So on a strain like that, in a 2 foot wide closet, 4 nodes may be too much.

So I am going to wait until day 28 at least before I do anything. One option might be to leave everything until day 42 and then do some leaf stripping.

ONE NODE AND FLIP DAY 28

Everything is looking really good and I just finished doing some training on day 28. Some plants have grown thick canopies that needed training.

This was mostly true on the GG4 and the Wedding Cake. I did remove some fan leaves but most of the training was removing smaller bud sites and low branches. Some strains make a lot of side branches and they can quickly create tops that are too dense for good light and air penetration.

By removing them I was able to open up the canopies and hopefully send more energy to the larger top buds. Trimming buds is tedious work especially if there are a lot of small buds. My goal is to eliminate as many as I can even if it means a slightly lower yield.

So far the one node and flip technique has worked well. It does not stall my plants out like full leaf stripping did. I need to refine it a bit though. Either by leaving less branches or less nodes on strains like GG4 that like to get tall and bush out. If I do it right I should need to do much less training after going into flower.

Here is a video showing how things are going. I also share a bit of info about my next grow and about dealing with powdery mildew in flower. Watch it. You will enjoy it.

ONE NODE AND FLIP TECHNIQUE DAY 35

So after comparing the one node and flip technique with a total leaf strip I definitely prefer one node and flip. It doesn’t set the plants back at all which could result in an earlier harvest. Over all the plants look healthier to me. Here is my day 35 video:

Here are pictures from both closets. The first two were taken of plants that received a total leaf strip. They are on day 46 and the next two were taken on day 35 and trained with the one node and flip technique.

Not a true side by side but same cuts and nutes and same lighting.  Although they will produce some nice buds the day 46 plants don’t look that happy to me.

Also the 2nd picture appears to be a different pheno even though they came from the same mom. Stress induced? I don’t know but it was not set back as hard as the other plants. It is already starting to fade and is taller than the others. Bud structure shows more cookie influence and finer less spikey pistils.

Now compare these plants to the ones trained with one node and flip. They are 10 days earlier and honestly I think the buds have better trichome development and are the dame size or maybe even a bit larger. See for yourself and then you decide if I am being biased.

Wedding Cake Day 46 Leaf Stripped
Wedding Cake Day 46 Leaf Stripped
Wedding Cake Day 35 One Node And Flip
Wedding Cake Day 35 One Node And Flip

Here are some shots of the rest of the closet taken on day 35

Pink Lemonade One Node And Flip Day 35
Pink Lemonade One Node And Flip Day 35
Tropicana Cookies Tropicana Cookies One Node And Flip Day 35
Tropicana Cookies Tropicana Cookies One Node And Flip Day 35
GG4 One Node And Flip Day 35
GG4 One Node And Flip Day 35
GG4 GG4 One Node And Flip Day 35
One Node And Flip Day 35 Closet

ONE NODE AND FLIP TECHNIQUE DAY 42

Today is day 42 and these ladies are coming along nicely. I have seen some significant bulking up this week and buds are gaining frost and starting to look way more mature.

I think the Tropicana cookies have made the most impressive gains this week. I dont think it will be a big yielder but the tangerine smell these girls put out is amazing.

The Pink Lemonade is getting heavy and branches are starting to lean from the weight. She is an earlier finisher than the others and is starting to show brown hairs now.

Wedding Cake and GG4 are also chunking up and getting frosty. The GG4 surprised me because it is the shortest plant in the closet. It has been taller before but this time it really went wide instead. It needed the most training after the one node and flip because it was so crowded. I think if trained this way it needs less branches than the others.

Day 42 One Node And Flip Pictures

Pink Lemonade day 42
Pink Lemonade day 42
Pink Lemonade day 42
Pink Lemonade day 42
Tropicana Cookies day 42
Tropicana Cookies day 42
Tropicana Cookies day 42
Tropicana Cookies day 42
Tropicana Cookies day 42
Tropicana Cookies day 42
Wedding Cake day 42
Wedding Cake day 42
Wedding Cake day 42
Wedding Cake day 42
GG4 day 42
GG4 day 42
GG4 day 42
GG4 day 42

Day 49 Time To Start Flushing

Everything is coming along nicely and at this point I really like the results from using the one node and flip technique. I dont know if I will ever do a total leaf strip again unless I have CO2.

I noticed that there are a lot of pistils going brown so it is time to flush. I want to flush while plants still are making white hairs and actively growing so they can use up the nutrients stored in the plant.

Just flushing the grow media alone wont do a proper job because plants store about a 2 week food supply inside them. Some say you dont need to flush but I can tell the difference between a properly flushed plant and one that is not. It definitely makes a big difference in quality.

Day 49 Pictures

PINK LEMONADE DAY 49
PINK LEMONADE DAY 49
PINK LEMONADE DAY 49
PINK LEMONADE DAY 49
TROPICANA COOKIES DAY 49
TROPICANA COOKIES DAY 49
TROPICANA COOKIES DAY 49
TROPICANA COOKIES DAY 49
WEDDING CAKE DAY 49
WEDDING CAKE DAY 49
WEDDING CAKE DAY 49
WEDDING CAKE DAY 49
GG4 DAY 49
GG4 DAY 49
GG4 DAY 49
GG4 DAY 49
GG4 DAY 49
GG4 DAY 49

One Node And Flip Day 56 And Lots Of Changes

A lot happened this week and most of it was unexpected and unplanned. All plants have been harvested except for the Tropicana Cookies.

The Pink Lemonade was done ahead of the others and while I was getting ready to chop her down I noticed what looked like powdery mildew on a few of the leaves. I was surprised to say the least because the plant sits right next to a fan and humidity in the closet was in the low 40s but there it was.

I dont like to spray anything in flower but I dont like losing a crop either. Especially so close to harvest. Everything got sprayed down with Serenade. It is a special strain of Bacillus Subtilis that prevents mold and other plant diseases from reproducing. It is certified organic and can be used right up to the day of harvest.

The Pink Lemonade came out the next day, then got 2 days of darkness in another closet and was chopped. I think it yielded pretty well because the plant seemed really heavy.

The Wedding Cake was showing signs of bud rot on 2 nugs and I think the spray may have kept it from spreading. It is a very hard plant to clone and I had planned on doing a reveg with it. So I chopped it a bit earlier than I would have liked but I was afraid it would be harder to reveg if it went much longer.

The GG4 was ready and starting to foxtail so it was harvested too. Neither the Glue or the Tropicana Cookies showed any signs of mold or anything else.

So the Tropicana is the last one standing and she is a stunner that is showing more and more purple by the day. She smells like tangerines and is very frosty and will be very easy to trim from the looks of things. Anyway here is a quick video from the aftermath on day 56.

Tropicana Cookies On Day 56

Tropicanna Cookies Ready For Harvest

Wedding Cake Ready For Harvest

The Wedding Cake trained with the one node and flip technique was harvested earlier than I would have liked but this video shows the ones that were leaf stripped.

Final Thoughts

I prefer one node and flip to leaf stripping at this point. It is less labor intensive and doesn’t set the plants back like stripping does.

If I could only run one of these strains the Tropicanna would win hands down. Yield is about the same as the Wedding Cake but the quality is much better IMHO. Very easy to trim and lots of purple hues. Plus Wedding Cake is an absolute bitch to clone.

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