Here is my Exotic Genetix Cookies and Cream strain grow journal.

So I received 11 large healthy looking seeds in a nice box. Seeds were all well protected inside a foam lined plastic case.

I dropped all 11 into a shot glass and within 3 hours they all had sunk so I moved them to a paper towel inside a small container.

After 2 days they all had cracked and had roots so they were moved into party cups filled with coco.

Once they fill those out I am planning on moving them into pots with mini grow cubes or larger blocks. I will probably use the cubes since these seeds will still be unsexed and I hate wasting a block on males.

So here is what they are supposed to look like:

Cookies And Cream Seeds at 14 Days

I decided to move my Cookies And Cream seeds under 12/12 lighting even though they are young. I have some space issues and I dont want to carry any extra males. Once they show sex I will reveg the ladies and take some cuttings.

From there the revegged girls will go into 1 gallon pots filled with rockwool cubes. This will be what I call a shakedown run. I like to make my final selection from clones.

I have seen differences between clones and the seed plants they came from with some strains. You only flower a seed plant once but clones get flowered many times so you want to make sure they are stable.

So here are my Cookies and Cream about 10 days later. So far there have been 3 males removed and I have 8 left (mostly girls I hope) but these are taking longer.

They are being grown along side my Bruce Banner seedlings which were much faster to show sex. But these plants have made better growth and all look really healthy.

I should know in the next few days if there are any more males hiding in here. Once they are all sexed I plan to reveg them and take some cuts before flowering.

Cookies And Cream Day 7 Of Flower

Today my cookies and cream have been under 12/12 lighting for 7 days and are beginning to show  flowers. Actually there are 7 of them and one Bruce Banner.

They are in 6 inch net pots filled with Grodan mini cubes. Currently I am running Heavy 16 Bud A&B, Prime and Fire at 670 ppms and pH 6.0.

The plants are not very large but do look very healthy and were trained with the one node and flip method. At this point I am not concerned about size and yield, only finding the best keeper if I think they are worth growing again.

Here are some pics. Half under my CXB 250 COB and half under my Platinum P600. The larger plant on the far left in the 2nd pic is the Bruce Banner.

Cookies And Cream Day 14 Leaf Stripping

On day 14 I did a major leaf stripping on these Cookies and Cream girls. I removed pretty much every leaf that had a stem, leaving a few fan leaves on top. These plants are small and probably wont produce that many buds so I want to make sure what is there will be nice and solid. I dont want any larfy buds.

I am not that concerned with yield at this point. I want to see the buds and smells, tastes and potency. If I find a nice pheno out of this bunch I will give it a longer veg time next round if it’s a keeper.

Here are some before and after photos. There are 7 Cookies and Cream girls and one Bruce Banner on the left under the blurple LEDs. The Bruce Banner was cut back hard just before flowering but it still is the largest plant.

Cookies And Cream Day 35

About 2 weeks have passed since these girls were defoliated. They had a total leaf stripping except for a few fan leaves on top. They have recovered nicely from the scwazzing and are stacking flowers now.

I also flipped another 6 cookies and cream about the same time the flowering ladies were on day 35. I plan on moving them to my other flower room in about 2 weeks when my Bruce Banner girls are finished.

I have gotten some nice cuts of Wedding Cake, Peanut Butter Breath, Space Goo and GG4 but since they were cuttings and not clones they will need some time to root and veg up before I can flower them. So I will be running the just flipped C & C girls while I wait for them.

Cookies And Cream COB LED Grow Day 28

So I moved 6 Cookies And Cream, girls into my main flower closet last week. They looked very healthy  and had just started to flower. Today I did some under skirt cleanup on them. They seem healthy and are being fed with Veg+Bloom at about 600 ppms and a pH of 5.8

I am using rockwool croutons again and 6″ net pots which I guess are about a 1 gallon equivalent. The plants are much shorter than the OGs I usually grow and so I lowered the screen quite a bit from where it usually is. At 28 days I am not really expecting to see much more stretch if any at all.

I still have plants under the Platinum P600 also but I am not really happy with them. I did a heavy leaf strip on them and I think it stunted them. I think some strains may respond better to defoliation than others. I would have to say the Cookies And Cream did not like it. Here are some pics taken on day 28 of my new grow:

Day 58 Flushing

Everything is the same. The cuttings, the nutes but these were leaf stripped and grown under my Platinum P600. They look much different from the ones I am flowering under my COBs.

I have noticed the

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Cookies And Cream Day 35

Here are some pictures taken on day 35. These plants seem a bit fussy. A bit of tip burn and some leaf discoloration and one plant is clearly not happy and pistils are already brown.

So far I am disappointed in this strain despite all the hype it has received. It is still early and it may surprise me and of course I haven’t smoked any yet.

I harvested the buds in my other closet and they are curing in glass jars. Yield will be low and the buds really are leafy to me. The only pheno that was worth keeping was the purple one. Better size with purple in them and nice orange hairs and probably one of the better yielders.

I didn’t run her this time because the cut I took died. I was able to grab a bud to reveg and it looks like it took. So I will hopefully be able to save this pheno and give it a better test run.

Fighting Fungus Gnats In My Cookies And Cream Day 42

Above are some shots of my Cookies And Cream grow on day 42. Some leaves are starting to show some purple and others are starting to yellow. The breeder says 58-63 days with 60 being average.

Some plants will actually start to fade naturally. I also noticed some pistils starting to go brown. So it is time to start flushing these girls soon.

The buds are frosty with good trichome coverage. I am not expecting a big yield from these and there are a lot of different phenotypes showing up. Honestly I think Exotic Genetics needs to refine this Starfighter x Mystery Cookies cross. These plants are really all over the place which to me is a sign of pollen chucking rather than breeding.

Die Fungus Gnats!

A while ago I noticed a few fungus gnats in my clone tent. I gave it a couple of sprays with neem oil and pretty much figured that would take care of it. Boy was I wrong. I have been invaded. Now I have them in all 3 grow areas and in my houseplants.

I tried a bunch of things that did not work. After a lot of research I decided to go with Azamax and Gnatrol drenches.

I did not get rid of them yet but I have definitely seen a major decrease in population. They are hard to get rid of and they dont go away overnight. It takes multiple soil treatments and the use of sticky traps to catch the fliers.

Day 49 Fading Fast

This week when I changed my res I wanted to reduce my ppms and start to flush. I added a tablespoon of Veg + Bloom and it brought my ppms to about 200. I had a bottle of New Millennium Winter Frost with a bit left in it so I through it in. It brought my ppms to 400 which was right about where I wanted them this week. Here is what happened within 2 0r 3 days:The recommendation for Winter Frost is 10 ml per gallon 7-10 days before flush. I used this product on my Bruce Banner which normally turns purple so was not sure how effective it was although it did start to turn purple within a few days. But it obviously works. As you can see from the picture fans are turning yellow and some have actually faded to the point of drying up.

Funny thing is I used way less than 10 ml per gallon. Maybe half that at most. Didn’t measure it but could tell there wasn’t much in the bottle. So I was surprised at what happened and I am definitely sold on it. Plants will be flushed another week on just water. Right now ppms are 60 and my tap is 40 ppms.

Day 46 Bud Shots

Nice frosty buds with excellent trichome coverage but this strain seems to be a light yielder, at least for me with the phenos I have.

Bruce Banner seeds are available from Dark Horse Genetics. They have embarked on a breeding project to deliver the original cup winning Bruce Banner 3 in seed form. Lineage:OG Kush x Strawberry Diesel

I just purchased a pack of Bruce Banner seeds which is labeled as Bruce Banner 2.0 (Bruce Banner BX2). I received 12 seeds and germinated them. The pack says “For souvenir purposes ONLY – Dark Horse Genetics are not to be germinated anywhere.” Luckily I don’t live “anywhere”. I live in Washington. I am happy to say within 48 hours all 12 had cracked and had tails. Here is how I germinate weed seeds: http://420dotcom.com/how-to-germinate-weed-seeds.html

Before I start my grow journal I thought I would share some background info on the Bruce Banner strain. So following is some background info on this strain from their website:

Original Bruce Banner. This is the original cross that created Bruce Banner. Same female. Same male. The outstanding BB3 and BB5 phenos were found in less than a dozen of these seeds. Now these legendary seeds are finally unleashed en masse to the public. Expect outstanding flavor and unrivaled potency and resin production.
More on the Bruce Banner http://www.darkhorsegenetics.com/

Dark Horse Genetics – Bruce Banner 1.0 Aka: Bruce Banner BX 2.0
Strain: Bruce Banner 1.0
Breeder: Dark Horse Genetics
Location: indoor, outdoor
Type: mostly indica
Flowering: ~70 days
No feminized seeds.
Here is some more information about the Bruce Banner story, how it was created and its genetics: http://en.seedfinder.eu/strain-info/Bruce_Banner_nr1/Dark_Horse_Genetics/

There isn’t a lot of info about Bruce Banner strain grows online, mostly smoke reports, but I did find one Bruce Banner grow:

Bruce Banner Seeds – Bruce Banner 2.0 Grow Journal

So Bruce Banner 2.0 is making its debut. These seeds are ready to hit the coco!

I decided that I was going to try growing Bruce Banner in rockwool cubes instead of coco. So after setting the sprouts in coco I removed them and washed the roots clean.

Some roots were fairly long already, even though they were only in cups for 3 days. So there was a bit of transplant shock.

I cut the rockwool in half and put the roots in them and they fit snugly inside the tray. The first leaves are looking crappy but there is new white root growth coming out of the blocks and the next set of leaves look healthy and green. All twelve seedlings should be just fine and the new rooting will help hold the cubes together.

The other group of seeds in the tray are Cookies and Cream from Exotic Genetix at 3 days.

Bruce Banner Seeds 21 Days

Sometimes a grower cant make up his mind! I ended up potting these Bruce Banner seeds back into coco again which probably set them back about a week or so.

I have been having some problems with pythium now that it is warm, and plants seem to better in coco than rockwool. Mostly cleared up from previous grows but there are still a few spores floating around, although I am winning the war.

I just moved these plants under 12/12 lighting so I can sex them. Right now I am short on space and between the Bruce Banner and the Cookies and Cream I am growing I have 24 plants.

I dont like to crowd things so hopefully getting rid of the males will save space. I am not in a hurry to run these so after the males are gone I will reveg them and take cuttings. So here they are at about 21 days. There is 1 runt but overall they dont look bad and they were just fed so they will start greening up.

Bruce Banner Sexed

So after 10 days under 12/12 lighting I was able to sex my Bruce Banner seeds. I have 10 girls which is phenomenal with 12 seeds. It is early still and there is 1 that looks like it could go either way but even if that happens the m/f ratio on these beans was great.

For the most part they are tall and leggy like an OG but there are a few smaller shorter phenos too. I am going to move them back into my veg tent in the next few days and I will take some clones of them too.

Bruce Banner Seeds Day 1 Of Flower

Today is day 1 of flower for my Bruce Banner seeds. These are the original seed plants after going under 12/12 for sexing and then reveg. They were transferred from coco solo cups into 6 inch net pots filled with rockwool croutons.

I have clones taken from these girls so this is basically a shake down run. I think there are 3 basic phenotypes in this mix. A tall OG leaning towards the original Bruce Banner, a medium pheno that leans more towards an OG/ Strawberry Diesel mix and there appears to be a 3rd phenotype that is much smaller than the other 2.

They are looking pretty healthy all things considered and this will be their first full day of 12/12 lighting.

I am planning to run them in a modified flood and drain/nft system. My plan is to put them on a spreader mat and cover the plants with panda film.

This will allow the roots to stay dark and moist and grow into the mat. The plants should be able to grow a much larger root mass than in standard or even smart pots and hopefully this will equate to higher yields.

I am waiting for my OG Kush ladies to finish up over the next 2 weeks as they flush. Then these BB girls can have the tray to themselves and I can put the cover on it. Meanwhile I will be hand feeding them at 600 ppm as the others flush.

Bruce Banner Clones

While these seedling girls are in veg I also took clones of them. It’s not unusual for clones to be different than the seed plants they came from so I also take clones from them. These clones rooted for me in 8 days.

Then the seed girls are a shakedown run for me. They help give me an idea which plants are likely to be the best keepers. In this case I have 10 girls and I can only keep 1 or 2 at most if I decide a strain is worth running again. I am pretty sure I will be running Bruce Banner more than once.

Bruce Banner 2.0 Week 1

The Bruce Banner seeds just finished their first week under 12/12 lighting. Some plants are already starting to show preflowers. They are being top fed right now at 600 ppm.

Once the table clears in the next week to 10 days they will be fed with flood and drain with a spreader mat underneath them. The top will be covered with panda film allowing the roots to spread out and grow much more. Here is a couple of pics:

Bruce Banner Flowering Delayed

I have decided to delay flowering these girls. I am concerned because they started flowering before the sized up. Maybe this was a result of putting them in 12/12 to sex them and not giving enough time for them to totally reveg.

So I moved in 2 Gorilla Glue #4 plants that outgrew their veg area instead. If you want to follow that grow it’s at http://420dotcom.com/gorilla-glue-4-gorilla-glue-grow-journal.html

Meanwhile I am vegging the clones I took from them and they will be going in after the Glue is done. Right now even the clones I took are flowering but hopefully 2 months of veg time should cure that.

Bruce Banner 2.0 Week 1 Flowering For Real This Time

After a long delay by Bruce Banner 2.0 is finally in my grow closet under 12/12 lighting. The clones I took are about 18 to 24 inches tall and stretch on these ladies is supposed to be up to 200%. So I am expecting 6′ tall plants from the taller phenos.

I have 10 girls in my 2×4 flood tray. They are sitting on a spreader mat with a panda film covering. Watering times are 1 minute every 2 hours.

I am using Heavy 16 Bud A&B along with Fire and Humboldts Secret Golden Tree the current pH is 5.8 and ppms are 560.

Lighting is 750w of 3500k COB LEDs and par readings above the plants right now are at about 650 µmol

Here is a video made on day 1 of 12/12:

Bruce Banner 2.0 Day 7 And Flubber From La Plata Labs

The Bruce Banner is at day 7 and already showing several different phenos. Some of the largest plants from seed are much smaller as clones. That is why I like to do a pheno hunt from cuttings. In my experience clones of seed plants can grow quite differently as clones.

There are 10 girls but one is a runt and I dont expect it to do much. One girl #5 is a monster and #1 is looking good too. The rest are shorter and I guess will lean more to the Strawberry Diesel side.

I also brought in a Flubber from La Plata Labs at about day 55. It was overgrown by my OGs and did not get much light so I am sure it is smaller than it should be. It has really nice looking trichome development and looks like it will make some nice bud in spite of all its abuse.

Not too much to show this early except for the Flubber. Here are some pics for you:

Bruce Banner Flowering Already On Day 9

I started to notice preflowers showing on some of my girls on day 8 and today my Bruce Banner #5 pheno has open flowers on day 9 and #1 isn’t far behind. Most of the plants are showing them now but #5 is crushing all the others.

I started to notice some cal/mag deficiency on some of the fan leaves and that is really not unusual with OG strains. They are cal/mag whores. So I added some CaliMagic at 2 ml per gallon.

I have been using Heavy 16 Bud A&B and Fire but not the Prime until now. So I added it too. My mix is much hotter at 850 ppms. I usually aim for about 650 and will probably drop back down in a few weeks.

I also started only feeding at lights on for 1 minute every 3 hours.  I want to see if fewer waterings will encourage more growth in the matting. Here are a few pics taken on day 9:

Bruce Banner 2.0 Day 14

My Bruce Banner continues to grow and flower. Plants look very healthy. I did spot some minor calcium and magnesium deficiency signs on a few of the larger fan leaves. OGs tend to be heavy cal/mag feeders and magnesium is mobile so it is common for plants to move it from lower to upper leaves and buds.

Plants were sprayed with Heavy 16 Foliar which contains calcium and magnesium as well as silica. Very sticky thick stuff that works well especially in veg, but because flowers are now forming I will only use it this one time.

I have trained these plants in a one node and flip style similar to what Jungle Boys do. However my plants are smaller so most only have 2 stems. Everything below the first few inches was removed. The idea is to have most buds above my screen and eliminate pop corn and larf.

I am after Bruce Banner #3 leaners so I believe the pheno hunt will be in the taller plants. The shorter plants will likely be sour diesel leaners and some will be a mix of the two. So I am not that concerned with yield at this point. I want to see bud development, flowering style and smells on the taller plants.

So far my #5 pheno looks like the keeper with #1 close behind. #5 seems to be the heaviest yielder and is the largest plant. Because these are clones from a seed run there is some obvious size differences between phenos.

Bruce Banner Schwazzing/Leaf Stripping Day 21

On day 16 of flower I decided to test out schwazzing or leaf stripping on my Bruce Banner ladies. These girls were flowered using the one node and flip method the Jungle Boys popularized on Instagram.

I have always done some defoliation but this was my first total leaf stripping or schwaz where every leaf with a stem is removed. I did leave 2 or 3 top fan leaves though.

They looked kind of pathetic after stripping but they began to bounce back quickly. More importantly bud size started to increase and leaves began to regenerate.

My Bruce Banner Seeds At 28 Days

So my Bruce Banner 2.0 seeds turned 28 days. They had a major leaf stripping on day 16 and seem to have recovered nicely. There is some height difference between phenos and at 4 weeks stretch should be over.

The tallest ones are the ones I am most interested in because they are more likely to be like the Bruce Banner #3 clone. I am sure they are all fire but at this point I am not interested in the Strawberry Diesel leaners. All I want is a good yielding, dank OG from this run.

I removed the cover from my flood tray because I felt it was keeping the rooms humidity down. With it off my humidity is up 10-15%. So from 25% to 35-40% is right about where I want it. I know those who use VPD like higher humidity but I like it low, especially in flower.

BRUCE BANNER DAY 35 TRYING OUT  VEG+BLOOM RO SOFT NUTES

These Bruce Banner girls WERE scwazzed on day 14 and are now at 35 days stacking and getting after it. Getting stinky and frosty. Trying out some Veg+Bloom RO Soft  along with Heavy 16 Prime and Fire. So far so good. Been running this combo for about a week and the girls seem to like it.

Day 42 Guest Appearance Groot From Guardians Of The Garden (Galaxy)

I am a big Guardians of the Galaxy fan so I think part 3 should be called Guardians of the Garden and took the liberty of inviting Groot over to keep an eye on my Bruce Banner girls. He is the Incredible  Hulk as you know but since he’s a guy I think these ladies should be called the Hulkettes. So Groot, meet the Hulkettes.

I have been running the Veg + Bloom along with Heavy 16 Prime and Fire and it seems to make a good combo and plants are responding well to the mix. Currently pH is 5.6 and PPMs are 630.

I have taken the panda film cover off the flood tray which has helped keep the humidity up in my closet.

I also have changed flood times to 5 minutes every 6 hours. I am flooding deeper because the rockwool croutons dont wick water as easily as coco or larger rockwool blocks. I have noticed the longer flood times also flush nutrients out of the spreader mat better and as a result my pH fluctuations have pretty much stopped and stay pretty stable.

Here are some bud shots taken on day 42. Everything is growing well with lots of frost and calyxes are swelling nicely.

Bruce Banner Day 49 With New Millennium Winter Frost

Everything is sizing up and getting frosty. On day 43 I added some Winter Frost from New Millennium. As far as I can tell it’s a bloom booster/bud enhancer/finisher. It is supposed to be added 10 days before flush. It’s hard to tell if it made any difference in bud size or frostiness. It does seem to start the fading process though. I am starting to see fall colors show up. I will run it until day 53 and then start a 10 day flush.

I have 2 phenos I am thinking about keeping. One has the Bruce Banner 3 bud structure and the other looks like a hybrid with buds that are showing more of a diesel influence.

There was a lot of variation between plants because this is a BX and so lots of recessive genes show up. Some are good and some not so good. Some OG leaner plants have small buds and there are some nice strawberry diesel leaners but I am not saving those even though they could turn out to be better smoke it is the OG leaners I am interested in.

Here are a few shots from my 2 keepers taken on day 51. Very nice trichome development on these ladies.

Bruce Banner 2.o Day 56 Bud Porn

Lots of pretty fall colors and fat trichomes on these girls as they finish up. Here’s some Bruce Banner 2.0 bud porn for you to enjoy:

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Karma Genetics has done some great work on OG strains and one of my favorites is White OG V2.0 . I have been growing it for a few years now and it is pure fire and never disappoints.

This was a coco grow pretty much using the whole Heavy 16 line. Bud A&B, Prime, Fire and Foliar. I am testing out some new nutrient lines because my old standby nutes are no longer being made.

I also have switched from aeroponics over to growing in coco because of root rot issues that I so far have not been able to conquer.

Earlier I did a Heavy 16 review but because I was growing with HPA I was unable to use Prime and Fire so was only able to test the Bud A&B

You an read about Karma Genetics White OG V2.0 genetics here but I will tell you it is one of the easier OGs to grow and some phenos finish around 9 weeks.

White OG V2.0 – Heavy 16 Coco Grow

These plants were grown in Canna Coco in 2 gallon smart pots. They were watered with a top fed drip system. The drippers ran 15 seconds on and 2 hours off 24/7.

Unlike most coco grows, mine is a recirculating system. Drain to waste just seems like a waste to me. If you read about growing in coco everyone says go DTW but it is obvious most have never tried recirculating coco. I usually change my reservoir every 2 weeks but sometimes I go longer and I have had zero problems.

The Heavy 16 maintains a stable pH but it is usually around 6.2 which is a tad high for coco with 5.8 being considered ideal.

I found no need to add any Cal/Mag during flower although I did use some during veg because OGs are heavy Cal/Mag feeders, especially early on.

Because these plants are being given frequent small feedings it is important to use a low nutrient strength. Otherwise they will be over fertilized and bad things can happen.

Through trial and error and lots of research I feed my plants at 600 – 650 ppm. Feeding much higher can result in nitrogen toxicity.

Although these numbers may seem low, you need to remember that everything is going directly to the roots much the same as in aeroponics. The difference is coco can hold on to nutes so it is important to have some run off to prevent salt build up.

Karma Genetics – White OG V2.0 Bud Shots

Plants were grown under a 250w COB LED from Pacific Light Concepts. So here is some bud porn taken at 60 – 64 days:

You can watch this it video format here

The Gorilla Glue strain is taking the cannabis world by storm. It has won multiple cups and judges, growers and tokers all love Gorilla Glue #4. It yields well and can test 30% THC if well grown.

Up until now Gorilla Glue 4 has been clone only. There are clones widely available in some areas but there have been some problems with them.

There are good Gorilla Glue seeds to be had like the one in the picture below if you know where to look. So please read on.

Gorilla Glue Strain History

The Gorilla Glue marijuana strain was an accidental discovery and result of a hermie cross and it almost did not happen because Josey Whales was so pissed at his plants going hermie that he ripped them up. Here is the the Gorilla Glue 4 story as told by Josey:

Gorilla Glue #4 was accidently created by Joesy Whales when some Chem Sis plants he was growing hermied and pollinated his Sour Dubb. Tired of seeded gardens, Joesy tossed out the strain. But his buddy, Mardogg, still had some seeds. Mardogg popped the beans years later and ended up with 4 pheno’s of the GG, deciding #4 was worth keeping.

Joesy Whales:” i have been getting alot of questions about the gg4 so im going to tell everyone how it went down, a few years ago i was growing sour dubb and chem sister and some others, the chem sis threw a couple nanners and hit the sour dubb, i held those seeds for a year or so and finally popped 5 of them, they were ok, really had one nice pheno but i lost it in a security scare, the other 4 pheno’s all hermed on me and tottaly seeded my whole stadium run, i was pissed, i got rid of all of it to a friend, marrdog. he kept alot of the seeds and about a year later we had a joint grow going and he popped i belive it was 6 of those seeds, i was really concerned that they would herm and dident have much hope for them, they were all female, we ended up with pheno’s 1 2 4 and one we called the runt, all were outstanding, the clear winner though was the gg 4. so thanks to marrdog and lady luck.”
http://en.seedfinder.eu/strain-info/Gorilla_Glue_4/Unknown_or_Legendary/

When something like GG4  becomes a hot item there are fakes being sold and there have been sick cuts that dud out being passed around. It was born from a hermie cross so there is always that potential. Then there are all the insect and disease issues that clones can bring into the garden.

If you cant find healthy Gorilla Glue 4 clones or don’t want to take the risk of fake or unhealthy gear there is another option. Gorilla Glue seeds are available. Many seed companies are trying to cash in on the Gorilla Glue craze. Most are hastily made crosses or S1s and most are garbage.

Gorilla Bubble by Tony’s Tortured Beans

There is one exception and that is Gorilla Bubble by Tony’s Tortured Beans. Tony has been working on this line for about 5 years now and is currently on Gorilla Bubble BX 4.

Tony tortures or stresses his plants to find and remove hermie traits. He started with the original GG4 clone and a special Sour Bubble male. He has been selectively breeding out the Sour Bubble pheno in his BXs.

Josey Whales the original creator of the Gorilla Glue strain said this about Tony’s Gorilla Bubble:

“just to verify . Tony and Dan are the only ones that are doing seeds of gorilla glue bxing that I indorse , there gorilla bubble is as close to gorilla glue 4 as your going to get, so many seed companies using my gorilla glue name with there fake assed shit, DONT BUY FAKE SHIT, get the real deal or tony’s bx”

You can read more about the making and testing of Gorilla Bubble HERE, but I must warn you this thread is over 600 pages long now.

Gorilla Bubble Grow Journal

I actually had a chance to pick up some GG4 clones. But because of the risks involved I decided to grow my Gorilla Glue strain from seed. Aside from all the problems clones can bring in, the biggest thing to me is you cant really be sure what you are buying is the real deal.

At least here I know that Tony started with a verified cut of GG4.

I got a hold of some Gorilla Bubble BX4 from Tony’s Tortured Beans and dropped them in a shot glass until they sunk which took about 12 hours. There were 11 Gorilla Bubble seeds in my pack.

From there they went into a paper towel. Within 24 hours they began to crack and at 48 hours out of the shot glass 2 had tails showing. 24 hours later as you can see from the pic below, which was taken at about 60 hours from soaking, they all had cracked and had tails. I am happy to say germination was 100%

I will be transplanting them into party cups filled with coco. I use Canna coco bricks. I found the bricks are cleaner and come without gnats. I think the bagged stuff is moist and allows the buggers to survive while the bricks are bone dry and seem to be bug free.

I will  transplant in the next 24 hours. I just want to give the seeds some more time to shed their husks.

So here they are a day later. They are all up and free from their shells. I did help a few along a bit. The husks pop off pretty easily but there is also a membrane that can stick to the leaves. So I removed that on a few of them, hopefully I didn’t damage anything.

They are under some 165w aquarium LEDS. I like to use these for seedlings because they provide a lot of blue spectrum light and that keeps things from stretching a lot. They put out much less heat than fluorescents and I think the spectrum is superior and it is adjustable.

Anyway I will call this day 0 and start counting veg days from here. So here they are at day 5 starting on their 2nd set of true leaves.

Here they are at day 10 – 14 below. If you see some brown on the leaves it’s not a deficiency or burn. I sprayed these with Heavy 16 foliar which leaves a pretty heavy residue on my plants even at lower doses. For some reason it shows up brownish under these blue lights.

I am not so patiently waiting for this gorilla glue strain to really take off and start growing and I don’t think it will be too much longer the way the 3rd set of leaves are looking.

Repotted from solo cups to 5 inch square pots. They say they are called a trade gallon but are actually about 3/4 of a gallon. Roots were coming out the bottom of the solo cups and beginning to go around in circles on the bottoms so it definitely was time.

Here they are 3 days later at 17 and 19 days. They were under 24/0 lighting and were switched to 16/8. I am gradually getting them ready for 12/12 flowering.

Now that the heavy blue spectrum veg lighting was switched to these 3500k COBs they are starting to grow fast and stretch because of the extra red. Soon I will top these Gorilla Bubbles and take some clones.

Then it should not be long before I flip them over to 12/12. Once I can determine sex the girls will go into 2 or 3 gallon smart pots. I don’t want to waste space and coco repotting males.

These guys already stink as small as they are. I will probably have to add a 2nd scrubber when they flower.

Gorilla Bubble Day 21 Taking Clones

So at day 21 I decided to take clones of my Gorilla Bubble. Earlier I removed fan leaves and there was some nice growth at the bottoms of the stem now. The tops were sturdy enough to take as clones.

By taking the tops out down low I am hoping those lower nodes will start to branch and take off as they fight to become the new leader.

What I want is basically branches coming out just above the soil, creating low bushy plants. The Gorilla Glue strain seems to grow upright with a lot of weak branches so this may help give plants a better structure.

Then I want to use the one node and flip technique popularized by Jungle Boys here Here is their video.

I may leave more than 1 node but the idea is to get everything budding in the main light zone and eliminate the lower popcorn buds. So I will trim all branches as in the video.

I will be making my pheno selection from the clones and not their mothers. I have seen too many clones turn out different than their seed mothers. So I want to get an idea of the quality of this Gorilla Glue strain from the seeded plants and yield really is not a big factor. But any keepers will come from the clones.

Gorilla Bubble Gorilla Glue Seeds First Day Of Flowering

I decided to flip these young Gorilla Glues. On day 22 I hooked them up to my drip system. Set to water 15 seconds every 2 hours during lights on.

They are on Heavy 16 nutes. I am using the whole line minus their Roots and Finish. PPMs were set to 600 or 1.2 EC and Ph to 6.0.

As soon as the males show they will be pulled and the remaining girls will go into 2 gallon smart pots. I don’t see any reason to pot up before then.

One plant #11 is half the size of the others and she may be culled. She is probably a sour bubble leaner which are slow veggers and that’s not what I’m after.

These plants are small, only about 4″ after topping and taking clones but I expect them to stretch enough to get a good look at the genetics and decide which clones to keep. I guess you could call this a shake down run. Here’s a few pics:

So these Gorilla Bubbles really did not like me topping them so low. And they were set back and throwing fits. I watched an old Subcool video where he tops really low and he says it will set the plants back. Well it did but now there are really nice branches coming out of the main stem.

I topped above the 2nd node on these and have wide branches right above the soil line. These plants will have great structure. They looked really bad at first, sick green color and really small leaves but now they are making a comeback. I may be able to sex these in about a week.

Gorilla Bubble First Week Of Flower

My Gorilla Bubble strain is seven days old today. I spread the plants out in the tray and there are some nice branches starting to form. They are in 1 gallon pots right now.

I am going to cull #11 the smallest plant because she is likely a sour bubble girl and not representative of the Gorilla Glue strain.

Think I spotted my first male and should be able to separate the girls from the boys soon. Girls will get transplanted into 2 gallon smart pots.

Gorilla Bubble Girls On Day 10

So I started out with 11 seedlings. I culled the runt and was left with 10 nice plants. But it was not to be. In the end on day 10 there were 6 males and 4 females unless another boy pops up.

I am not keeping males on this run so they were destroyed. I still have another pack of the BX4s to sift through if I change my mind.

Boy do these plants stink. I was warned and it was not an exaggeration. They smell like dead skunk being roasted over a burning tire. Anyway here are the ladies:

Day 14 – Now There Are 3

I had a late flowering male show up so I am down to 3 girls for my Gorilla Glue strain hunt. I added 2 White OG and 1 Hells Angel OG to fill out the tray.

I have one plant that is in the middle of the picture below and she looks like what I am looking for. I also have another pack of Gorilla Bubble BX4 I can crack and hopefully get a better m/f ratio out of. Some of the males were really nice and I hated chopping them but at this point I am not breeding these.

The 1st gorilla bubble looks like a Sour Bubble leaner. The girl in the middle is starting to show that twisted leaf trait that the Gorilla Glue strain is known for so she will most likely be my keeper pheno. The girl on the right looks like she is a 50/50 hybrid right now.

These ladies should be showing some flowers this week. The OGs just went in 2 days ago so they will take a while longer.

Gorilla Glue Strain Gorilla Bubble @ 21 Days

Week 3 is just about over and things are starting to rock. I have 3 Gorilla Bubble girls and 3 OG Kush girls too.

2 Gorilla Bubble plants look really good. The 3rd looks like a Sour Bubble pheno and is not what I am after. Sour Bubble is a killer strain. It’s fast and tests 28% THC but it is a small plant and a notoriously slow vegger. It is half the size of the other 2 girls.

None of these plants are large. They are only 18″ from the top of the pot and I don’t expect to see a lot more stretch from them. They were flowered small to start with and this is just a shakedown run to find the girls. I have back up clones of them but it looks like I will have only 2 to test, not going to waste time on the SB leaner.

Testing Some Mammoth P On This Grow

These plants are not what I would call fast veggers to begin with but they all look really healthy. I had a Mammoth P sample and decided to give it a test. The results were fast and impressive.

Mammoth P is pricey but you only use it at 1 or 2 ml per gallon so a little goes a long way.

So just before lights off I added it at 2 ml/gallon. Dumped it into my pump bag and turned on the pump to water it in.

The next day I saw a growth spurt and could see my plants had a healthy glow and were liking it.

Before, they were healthy, but just not growing that fast.  Within 24 hours I saw 2 inches of new growth. That’s a lot for plants under strong LED lighting and also a very fast response time.

LEDs definitely make smaller plants unless you raise them high but they don’t make smaller buds fortunately.

The following day I noticed new roots pushing out the sides of my pots. Mammoth P is not a fertilizer. It is a microbial mix that frees up phosphate and other nutrients. Phosphorus is known to stimulate root growth and that is exactly what happened.

I have seen some pretty convincing side by side videos which is what convinced me to try it. I don’t know if it gives a 16% increase in trimmed sellable yield like the makers claim but it sure unlocked my plants growth and healthy, happy plants do yield more.

Gorilla Bubble BX4 Gorilla Glue Strain @ 28 Days

Week 4 for my Gorilla Glue strain. The Gorilla Bubble girls are flowering and are still stretching. They are stacking as they do and it looks like there are some nice buds on the way.

I have some OGs sharing the grow space. Even at 14 days, because of their height, I needed to put in my screen. But the Gorilla Bubbles are shorter and only one was tall enough to get through the net.

I have raised up 2 of the plants to even the canopy. I have 3 different phenos #5,8 and 10. #10 is the shortest and needed it the most. She obviously leans toward the Sour Bubble and I raised her about 9 inches.

Phenos 5 and 8 are very similar but #5 has tighter node spacing and is about 3 inches shorter than #8, so I raised her up a few inches although she was probably going to get through the screen on her own.

Right now they are being fed at 660 ppms and pH 5.8 but they were higher earlier this week at 760 which is really too high for my system. I just added another small dose of Mammoth P too.

24/7 Nutrient Monitor Added This Week

I just added a nutrient monitor this week and so far I am loving it. I busted a pH pen and it cost me $66 at my local hydro store which pissed me off. It’s not the first pen I have broke but I hope it’s the last.

This 24/7 nutrient monitor set me back about $122 which is half the price of the Blue Lab monitor. It seems to be well made and works great.

Been thinking about getting one for a while now but held back because it did not seem like something I absolutely had to have.

But believe me, you want one of these if you are using a reservoir and especially if you are running hydro or aeroponics.

Here are this weeks pics but they were taken before the plants were raised:

So now is where the fun starts. I think these baby gorillas are just about done stretching and pretty soon they should start to size and start bringing that heavy frost Gorilla Glue is known for.

Here is a pic at day 30. The girls just got a haircut to let some light in on the lower buds.

Gorilla Bubble @ 35 Days

Plants are all growing well and being fed Heavy 16 nutes at 600 ppm. PH has been 6.0 to 6.2. Reservoir temps have been running at 73 degrees. Would like them to be a bit lower but it is summer and it has been fairly warm.

The Gorilla Bubble has recovered from its haircut and has stopped stretching. I am starting to see frost rails on the leaves. I think from here on out they will start get heavy trichome as the buds size up and begin to mature.

My OGs are at 23 days and are stretching and stacking like crazy. I hope they stop soon because one light doesn’t have much higher to go. Here are this weeks pics:

Gorilla Bubble @ 45 Days – Sticky As Glue

Today is day 45 for my Gorilla Bubble girls and 30 days for my OGs. I went in to  do some fan leaf removal and these girls are sticky as glue. I think Gorilla Glue was for sure named appropriately. I have grown lots of sticky buds but these are in a class of their own and the stickiness is different somehow.

Things are cruising along with nutes at 600 ppm and pH at 5.9 and my res is at 75 degrees. Not where I want it but not catastrophic either. It’s been warm and even the cold water is warmer than usual. I dont have AC in my room or in my house so the res ends up at room temperature. Here are some day 45 pics:

Gorilla Bubble @ 49 Days Chunking Up

Week 7 for my Gorilla Bubble girls and the buds are starting to chunk up. Resin looks like it is increasing along with bud size. My OG girls are at day 30 and are sizing and stacking nicely as well.

I have kept my girls at 600 ppm and pH has varied from 5.8 to 6.2. We have had a stretch of hot weather that has been unusually long. As a result my res temps have been much warmer than I would like and I have started adding blue ice packs to the res to keep temps down.

Dealing With Summer Growing Conditions

The other day temps in my res went over 75 and when I looked inside my res I could see a pretty thick bubbly  film floating on top. Probably the molasses had started to ferment and so I added some peroxide to try and kill everything which seemed to work and the next day I dumped the res.

Hot weather is expected to continue for some time. My water from the tap is 75 degrees and I dont have a chiller or air conditioning in the grow room or even in my apartment.

I decided that I was not going to run anything with any sugars that could ferment. So I switched to pure salts and Jacks Hydro 5-12-26 running the 3 2 1 recipe. You combine it by weight with Jack’s calcium nitrate and epsom salts. However Jack’s Jacks Hydroponic 5-12-26 has a good amount of magnesium in it so you could probably skip the epsom salts. I also began adding H2O2 as a preventative.

The dose for hydrogen peroxide, the 3% stuff sold everywhere is 12 ml per gallon one time and then 3 ml per gallon daily. That’s because its only effective for about a day and a half. If you are going to use it I recommend getting the 35% stuff and diluting it 10 to 1 because it’s cheaper.

So far plants are doing fine under the new nutes and here are some pics:

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Gorilla Bubble @ 56 Days And OG Kush @ 44 Days

Gorilla Bubble pheno #5 is ready to harvest and #10 is a few days behind. Pheno #8 is the tallest of the 3 and #10 the shortest. She is the latest pheno and my guess is she has about 10 days to go.

These plants are very sturdy with thick stems and not at all like the floppy Gorilla Glue #4. I only had 3 girls in this batch of seeds so not the best selection. I do have another pack that I can pop.

Since these are seedling plants I am hoping the clones will be different. They are very nice compact plants and I am sure the smoke will be excellent but they are not what I was hoping to find structure wise and TBH I expected them to be much frostier.

Meanwhile my 2 White OG and my Hells Angel OG Kush are sizing up nicely. I just stripped most of the fan leaves off them so lowers will get more light and to improve airflow. Here are some pics of the girls:

Gorilla Bubble 63 Days OG Kush 51 Days

Two of my Gorilla Bubble girls were harvested this week. I think they are more Sour Bubble leaners. Pheno #8 needs another week, maybe a bit more. According to the breeder the Gorilla Glue leaners are usually done later then the Sour Bubble plants.

Personally I think these plants are not at all like Gorilla Glue. I have the real GG4 clone now and it is taller and thinner branched. I only had 3 girls out of this pack and sadly they are not what I was looking for even though they are probably super potent.

I have seen some excellent GG4 leaners from these beans though. I cant say if I just had bad luck or if the BX4 leans more to the Sour Bubble than you would expect.

I do have another pack of them and will be popping it. Hopefully I will get a GG4 leaner out of them. But now that I have the original cut that is what I will be growing and my BX4 seeds wont get popped for a while because I have several other strains in the pipeline right now.

My White OG and Hells Angel OG are doing well and will probably go another 2 weeks. The Hells Angel seems ahead of the WOG and looks like I could take her now but these girls will pack on a lot more weight in the next few weeks. So here are some pics of the girls.

Day 66 Gorilla Bubble Strain Harvest Is Complete

Today I chopped pheno #8. She was the largest of my three phenos and later maturing than the others. She had nice chunky hard buds and some were pretty good sized. I probably could have let her go longer but I need the grow space now.

Very unique smell that I cant really describe other than to say I could imagine drying glue smelling like this. She will be the highest yielding of the 3. Here are some pics just before chop:

Still Got Some Nice OG Girls @ day 58

While the Gorilla Bubble is drying there are still some nice White OG And Hells Angel OG Girls finishing up. They have been flushing for about 10 days now and leaves are starting to fade. The HA seems a bit earlier than the WOG and very close to harvest. The others will probably need another week or so to finish. Here are some pics:

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I Wish I had the space for an extended, full time cannabis breeding project. I like to make some of my own crosses and with good pheno selections it is possible to do some breeding even in a small space.

So here is how to make weed seeds. Making weed seeds is easily doable even for a small grower. This is just about simple crossbreeding really. It takes much more time and space to run a bonafide cannabis breeding project.

Sugar Punch is one of the strongest strains I have ever grown and also one of the highest yielding. It is often sold out but if you can snag some it is definitely worth growing.

I lost my original cut but luckily I crossed it with a Cinderella male and preserved at least half the genetics. Which half? Time will tell but I am pretty certain I can get her back or maybe even something better.

My grow mostly leaned towards the haze in the cross but one girl leaned more indica and that is the one I chose to work with. It is very vigorous and perfect for a 12/12 from seed grow. Very tall with long node spacing and mostly haze type flowers.

So my hope is the C99 will tame it a bit. Maybe shorter node spacing and maybe earlier maturity. Some of the more haze dominant girls look like they could grow forever.

These were 12/12 from seed because I wanted to sex them early due to space limitations.9 plants 7 girls. At the 6th node and about 3 weeks old. Most lean towards the SP but a couple look more like Cindy doms.

Real cannabis breeding involves selective crosses to lock down the traits you are after. Breeding cannabis can be a complex and long process to get a stable seed line.

What I am doing here is a simple cross at this point. More like pollen chucking which is what many “breeders” do and why there can be so many pheno types in a bag of seeds. I wont know if it is worth taking it further than that until these are grown out.

The mom was a selection from my sugar punch grows. Big chunky colas, super frosty and devastatingly powerful high. A bit earlier and more indica dominant while the rest were more haze leaning.

And yes the cola in back is part of her too.

I am always looking for that special pheno type to appear in my grows and this girl was really special.

I crossed her with a C99 male from Mosca’s C99BX. I had 4 males that were similar in appearance.

But when I smoke tested them, one had a much stronger buzz to it and that became the daddy.

Yes you can get high smoking the leaves from a male plant. Not wasted, but buzzed.

It is a good way to see if the males will pass on potency. There is no THC in male flowers but there is some in the leaves.

 Punch Sugar Genetics

Sugar Punch is a cross of  a special Super Silver Haze cut and The One which is also a clone only strain.

Unknown or Legendary – The One-F1 Blueberry Sativa X Killa Queen/NYCD http://en.seedfinder.eu/strain-info/The_One/Unknown_or_Legendary/

I think my cut leans towards the blueberry but what ever it is, it is some of the strongest smoke I have ever had. Strong head high combined with very narcotic body high.

Growing her presents a variety of different phenos but all super potent and the stickiest plants you have ever seen. Even the stems are covered in resin.

Sugar Punch X C99 Cannabis Breeding Project Week 4

The ladies are now about 4 weeks from seed and were just transplanted from solo cups to 1 gallon pots.

They were also topped today at transplant time. Because I sexed them early under 12/12 lighting they had small flowers on them. That was one reason why they were topped but also these Sugar Punch girls were pretty tall and I am trying to bush them out.

I am hoping the Cinderella in the mix may keep them a bit shorter and result in earlier maturity too. Sugar Punch is a fem cross so there is no male and so I chose to use my best C99 male as the father.

How I Breed Cannabis In A Closet

First I am sorry but I did not save any pictures of this. But my cannabis breeding project process is fairly simple.

I use a large cardboard box about 2′ by 3′ and hang a 125 Watt CFL grow light rated at 2700 Kelvin and 5000 lumens from the top. It is set to a timer to run 12/12.

I used gallon containers in a drip tray inside. I need to keep plants small through pruning but also my cuts have been preflowered. It takes them a bit longer to root this way and by then they are flowering and stay small. Alternatively you could take cuts and spray them with a PGR since you are not going to smoke any of this.

The box is placed in my grow closet. It can be in veg or flower mode. Veg mode wont affect it because the box is mostly closed and no light gets in. So the worst that could happen is a hermie but we are raising seeds so who cares.

If you time it right in veg the male in the box will be done before you flip. Spray it with water to kill any stray pollen and remove it.

You can spray your girls down with water after they have been pollinated and place them along side other plants in your flower room safely.

If your plants are flowering in the same space you need to be very careful not to spread pollen to them. Water will kill male pollen. Pollen can stick to clothing or even your skin so take precautions any time you open the box.

You need to remember these are for seed so they do not need to look pretty. They just need to pollinate and ripen. Once they are pollinated grow them like any other plant but they will need some extra time to ripen their seeds.

Crossbreeding Weed With The Bag Method

Another method that works for crossbreeding weed is the bag method. You can collect male pollen in a bag and then tie the bag to a flowering branch on a female. It is pretty easy to do. Here is a video that explains how to crossbreed cannabis:

Sugar Punch x C99 Week 5

So it has been 5 weeks from seed and one week since these girls were topped. They are bushy and look good. I am going to take clones of them all.

I have noticed that sometimes clones grow differently than the plant they were taken from. That plant is around one time but the clones can be used over and over, assuming they are stable. Old time growers tell me you should flower a clone 3 times to make sure it is stable.

I am not sure how far I am going to take this. At least not at this point. If I get some really good phenos I can just run them as clones. I have 2 males so I could also try to stabilize a seed line from these.

Sugar Punch is a complex hybrid of 4 or more strains and both parents are fems. Sannie never tried to breed with it because he felt it was too unstable to create a line and also because there were no males.

So here they are at 5 weeks. They are taking off and probably need to be flowered soon or they will be monsters. I really have at least a month before I can do that and these don’t need a long veg.

Sannies Sugar Punch X C99 Day 1 Of Flower

Things were getting crowded in my veg tent so it was time to move my Sannies Sugar Punch X C99 girls out. I took cuts of them all and placed them in one of my flowering closets.

So Mothers Day is officially their first day of 12/12. They aren’t mothers yet but some may live on and raise young. I always like to flip on holidays for some reason when it’s possible. Just makes it easier to remember without having to go back to my notes.

Some of these ladies will probably get big. I have some that look like they take after the Sugar Punch, some look like a mix and 1 looks like a Cindy 99 knockoff. But really it is still to soon to tell what I have.

They will share that closet with some Dark Plasma girls for a few weeks until space opens up in my other flower room.

So here are pics of 3 of them. The others are in back of the Dark Plasma and hard to get a shot of. These also seem to lean most towards their Sugar Punch mom.

I am already feeling sticky leaves on these girls. The plant on the left is starting to show flower pistils already and the others are right about there too.

Sugar Punch Cannabis Breeding Project Day 6 Of Flower

Things are off to a fast start and these girls are really full into flower now. They are sharing a closet with some White OG which will be done in a week. At that point I will spread them out so they have more room to grow.

They are being fed at 690 ppm and pH is 5.9. They are on top feed drip being fed for 15 seconds every 2 hours while lights are on. They are in 1 gallon plastic grow bags filled with Canna coco. This is a recirculating system.

My goal with this breeding project is to find a girl like the Sugar Punch mom that I lost. Hopefully the C99 will tame the stretch a bit and shorten the flowering time.

So my goal is not to grow huge plants but rather find the right pheno. With coco you can use much smaller pots than soil and let them get root bound.

Using a continuous feed drip feeding and small pots you need much less nutrient because everything goes right to the roots and the roots don’t need to search for nutrients.

In a way this is similar to an aeroponic system of feeding except coco is the medium. Maybe I should call it cocoponics.

Cannabis Breeding Project Day 30

So these plants are well into flower although I do not know how long they need to flower yet. When you are crossing 2 strains it is sometimes hard to tell what you will get.

So far it seems the Cinderella 99 has really dominated the cross. Plants are much shorter than the original Sugar Punch which would be well through the screen by now.

I don’t know if flowering time will also be shorter. All phenos are very sticky and have a sweet fruity smell to them. Some are short and are C99 dominant. One is very short, a few are medium sized and a few are taller than the rest.

One of the taller ones looks like it might be the one I am after but it’s still early in bud development so I cant say for sure. It does seem to have different flowers. Most remind me of C99 or haze like but the one I have my eyes on seems to be stacking heavier and bud hairs are much heavier than most of the others. Hoping I get a hard stacking shorter plant similar to the mom.

New Cannabis Breeding Project Day 42

So day 42 is here for my Sugar Punch Cindy girls. The Cinderella 99 really has dominated this cross. They smell sweet and fruity like both strains do. But they are much shorter than Sugar Punch and some look like some will finish in about a week. Here is a shot of my 7 girls.

Sadly I am not finding what I am looking for. I was hoping to recapture my favorite Sugar Punch pheno. The middle plant in back is the only one that is even remotely close. I will probably keep her and the plant to the left of her.

Sometimes clones develop differently than seed plants and that is what I am hoping for. It’s not that these are bad plants but I can grow all the C99 I want and these are not much different. Here are some shots of the ladies.

Sugar Punch X Cindy 99 Day 47

Seven weeks into this grow. Don’t really like what I am seeing. Cinderella 99 has dominated this cross and there is only one plant that resembles the mom I wanted to recreate.

If I had more plants I might have a chance of finding her. With only seven plants chances are much slimmer. Breeding really is a numbers game, unless you get lucky. So I chopped all the other plants down. They were fruity and sticky, probably really potent, but just not what I am after.

The plant I kept resembles the mom only smaller. I think she will go 60-65 days. She was the largest of the bunch and has the hardest buds. Some other phenos were pretty loose. They will probably make some nice rosin though. Here’s pics of the keeper pheno:

I will reflower her because clones are sometimes different than the seed plant they came from. I am hoping she will show a bit more of the Sugar Punch next time.

Meanwhile she still needs time to fill out and size up her buds so I will probably take her 2 more weeks and then I will update here.